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		<title>By: Christopher Hopper</title>
		<link>http://www.christopherhopper.com/2008/02/watson-baptist-conference-csff-blog-tour-question/comment-page-1/#comment-2135</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Hopper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mooney: You&#039;re a riot. And thanks for the correct word. 

Kait: &quot;Brain candy.&quot; Love it!

Rebecca: I never thought of that! SO TRUE! We were still a MacDonald&#039;s culture back then, but no where near where we are now in my estimation! Great point.

Thanks for chiming in gang! You make my blog so rich!

CH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mooney: You&#8217;re a riot. And thanks for the correct word. </p>
<p>Kait: &#8220;Brain candy.&#8221; Love it!</p>
<p>Rebecca: I never thought of that! SO TRUE! We were still a MacDonald&#8217;s culture back then, but no where near where we are now in my estimation! Great point.</p>
<p>Thanks for chiming in gang! You make my blog so rich!</p>
<p>CH</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca LuElla Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca LuElla Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christopher, great discussion here.

As to the slow pace, I found it interesting that, from something Pam quoted of Chris Walley&#039;s, he started writing these books as far back as 1988/89â€”&lt;b&gt;before&lt;/b&gt; much of the writer-rule-of-thumb list was formulated. His book, therefore, does read much slower.

But there&#039;s also this, and it may be a question I explore in my post tomorrow. Since fiction is built on conflict and his world, at the outset, was in essence perfect, how do you create the tension to move the pace along faster? 

Yeah, if I remember, I&#039;ll write more of that tomorrow.

Becky</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christopher, great discussion here.</p>
<p>As to the slow pace, I found it interesting that, from something Pam quoted of Chris Walley&#8217;s, he started writing these books as far back as 1988/89â€”<b>before</b> much of the writer-rule-of-thumb list was formulated. His book, therefore, does read much slower.</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s also this, and it may be a question I explore in my post tomorrow. Since fiction is built on conflict and his world, at the outset, was in essence perfect, how do you create the tension to move the pace along faster? </p>
<p>Yeah, if I remember, I&#8217;ll write more of that tomorrow.</p>
<p>Becky</p>
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		<title>By: Pixy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pixy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL...that&#039;s good, mooney. Very wise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL&#8230;that&#8217;s good, mooney. Very wise.</p>
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		<title>By: mooney</title>
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		<dc:creator>mooney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah Baby! I haven&#039;t read a single page of Chris Walley, but here goes my answer.

First, I love this question, &quot;What if?&quot; So here we go.

Personally, I would manipulate all the naive &quot;innocents&quot; into a scheme that combines MLM, envelopes with $1 in them, and a vitamin selling pyramid scheme.  Using the millions of dollars that I would generate in this venture, I would build the Death Star and hold entire worlds ransom.  As payment for a peaceful existence, all of humanity will be required to by my books so that I continuously hold all of the NY Times best-seller records along with holding the Amazon #1 sales rank.

On a side note CH, it was coincidental, not ironic.

- mooney</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Baby! I haven&#8217;t read a single page of Chris Walley, but here goes my answer.</p>
<p>First, I love this question, &#8220;What if?&#8221; So here we go.</p>
<p>Personally, I would manipulate all the naive &#8220;innocents&#8221; into a scheme that combines MLM, envelopes with $1 in them, and a vitamin selling pyramid scheme.  Using the millions of dollars that I would generate in this venture, I would build the Death Star and hold entire worlds ransom.  As payment for a peaceful existence, all of humanity will be required to by my books so that I continuously hold all of the NY Times best-seller records along with holding the Amazon #1 sales rank.</p>
<p>On a side note CH, it was coincidental, not ironic.</p>
<p>- mooney</p>
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		<title>By: Kait</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kait</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 05:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are so right about the pop song comment.  It seems that the books that I tend to enjoy these days are the &quot;brain candy&quot;, the books that I can read in an afternoon because they are fluff.  They have no substance, and are pretty much pre-chewed.  The Shadow and Night is definitely NOT like that, which makes it harder (that&#039;s not the right word) to read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are so right about the pop song comment.  It seems that the books that I tend to enjoy these days are the &#8220;brain candy&#8221;, the books that I can read in an afternoon because they are fluff.  They have no substance, and are pretty much pre-chewed.  The Shadow and Night is definitely NOT like that, which makes it harder (that&#8217;s not the right word) to read.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Hopper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Hopper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 03:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason: Fabulous question. And there is honestly no easy answer, though I certainly have my own opinions (which I&#039;ll share in a sec). There are many &quot;trade rules of thumb&quot; that you&#039;ll come across, but, as with most things, rules are made to be broken and there are always exceptions. &quot;Don&#039;t elude to any back story in the first 50 pages...&quot; &quot;Cut out 75% of your adverbs on your first read through...&quot; &quot;Don&#039;t have more than  four sentences in a paragraph...&quot; But all of it, in the end, is subject to the Laws of Art--which are--there aren&#039;t any. 

For me personally, my writing is to convey morality, yes, truth, yes, commentary, yes...but it&#039;s also to entertain! And part of entertaining means knowing my audience and making sure they are having fun and enjoying the book. 

Honestly, with regard to Chris&#039; work, if I didn&#039;t have the blog tour, I may have not gotten into it (which would have been a shame because somewhere right around page 175 or so it really got my heart pumping and I would have missed out on a very compelling story). Granted, I don&#039;t have a lot of time to sit around and read so I&#039;m much more particular with what I pick up. But the fact certainly stands against him that if I didn&#039;t have the CSFF tour, he wouldn&#039;t have a fan. That should speak for itself. 

The two main schools of thought at the moment are:

1.) Hook your reader by the nose and get out of the gate fast. RUN! Action. Suspense. Drama. Crisis.

and, on a completely other note...

2.) Introduce a character (and story) slowly and establish his or her amiable qualities, then pit them against circumstances that will test their adherence to those personal morals.

Crazy, right?  

Personally, I find that there is a balance. Books are written on characters...at least good ones. But no one wants to read 300 pages of &quot;boring.&quot; That&#039;s why people read in the first place, because we need a break from the monotony of our own lives! Get into space! Go to Africa! Deep sea adventure! Spiritual battle! You name it... But in the end, people want something that&#039;s fun, I think. I wrote my books with one thing in mind: I want people who don;t like to read to like these. (As I was writing them for myself!). I also knew that a large part of my audience would NOT be highly educated (not saying they can&#039;t be) so that meant I didn&#039;t need to be C.S. Lewis when it came to logic; I also knew they were not in it for some huge long dissertation on what a forest looked like (why they can read Tolkien). My audience would be unique and I wrote for them. 

If Walley was trying to bring the epic scope of Tolkien to his space thrillers, then I guess he succeeded, but I&#039;m not sure that&#039;s today&#039;s audience. 

Hope that helps at least a little. 

Valerie: Thanks for stopping by! Hope you get grand-babies soon!...my parents are different people around ours! Ha!

CH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason: Fabulous question. And there is honestly no easy answer, though I certainly have my own opinions (which I&#8217;ll share in a sec). There are many &#8220;trade rules of thumb&#8221; that you&#8217;ll come across, but, as with most things, rules are made to be broken and there are always exceptions. &#8220;Don&#8217;t elude to any back story in the first 50 pages&#8230;&#8221; &#8220;Cut out 75% of your adverbs on your first read through&#8230;&#8221; &#8220;Don&#8217;t have more than  four sentences in a paragraph&#8230;&#8221; But all of it, in the end, is subject to the Laws of Art&#8211;which are&#8211;there aren&#8217;t any. </p>
<p>For me personally, my writing is to convey morality, yes, truth, yes, commentary, yes&#8230;but it&#8217;s also to entertain! And part of entertaining means knowing my audience and making sure they are having fun and enjoying the book. </p>
<p>Honestly, with regard to Chris&#8217; work, if I didn&#8217;t have the blog tour, I may have not gotten into it (which would have been a shame because somewhere right around page 175 or so it really got my heart pumping and I would have missed out on a very compelling story). Granted, I don&#8217;t have a lot of time to sit around and read so I&#8217;m much more particular with what I pick up. But the fact certainly stands against him that if I didn&#8217;t have the CSFF tour, he wouldn&#8217;t have a fan. That should speak for itself. </p>
<p>The two main schools of thought at the moment are:</p>
<p>1.) Hook your reader by the nose and get out of the gate fast. RUN! Action. Suspense. Drama. Crisis.</p>
<p>and, on a completely other note&#8230;</p>
<p>2.) Introduce a character (and story) slowly and establish his or her amiable qualities, then pit them against circumstances that will test their adherence to those personal morals.</p>
<p>Crazy, right?  </p>
<p>Personally, I find that there is a balance. Books are written on characters&#8230;at least good ones. But no one wants to read 300 pages of &#8220;boring.&#8221; That&#8217;s why people read in the first place, because we need a break from the monotony of our own lives! Get into space! Go to Africa! Deep sea adventure! Spiritual battle! You name it&#8230; But in the end, people want something that&#8217;s fun, I think. I wrote my books with one thing in mind: I want people who don;t like to read to like these. (As I was writing them for myself!). I also knew that a large part of my audience would NOT be highly educated (not saying they can&#8217;t be) so that meant I didn&#8217;t need to be C.S. Lewis when it came to logic; I also knew they were not in it for some huge long dissertation on what a forest looked like (why they can read Tolkien). My audience would be unique and I wrote for them. </p>
<p>If Walley was trying to bring the epic scope of Tolkien to his space thrillers, then I guess he succeeded, but I&#8217;m not sure that&#8217;s today&#8217;s audience. </p>
<p>Hope that helps at least a little. </p>
<p>Valerie: Thanks for stopping by! Hope you get grand-babies soon!&#8230;my parents are different people around ours! Ha!</p>
<p>CH</p>
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		<title>By: valerie</title>
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		<dc:creator>valerie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 03:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting thought on child rearing, Rebecca. I hadn&#039;t thought of it...my kids are in their 20s and so far childless themselves. But yes, definitely a valid question!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting thought on child rearing, Rebecca. I hadn&#8217;t thought of it&#8230;my kids are in their 20s and so far childless themselves. But yes, definitely a valid question!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,
Thanks for the drop-by and the encouragement to keep going. I was at the point of giving up, but I just may keep pushing through (though I may not make it for the blog tour).

As an author, can I ask you a question though? I am at page 125, and I am not remotely invested in the book other than &quot;the blog tour is coming&quot;. As a wannabe, you always hear the first 10/25/50 pages are so important to catch people&#039;s attention. How can you take a chance on such a slow build if everything a potential author hears is &quot;It has to catch them quickly&quot;?

Thanks!
Jason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,<br />
Thanks for the drop-by and the encouragement to keep going. I was at the point of giving up, but I just may keep pushing through (though I may not make it for the blog tour).</p>
<p>As an author, can I ask you a question though? I am at page 125, and I am not remotely invested in the book other than &#8220;the blog tour is coming&#8221;. As a wannabe, you always hear the first 10/25/50 pages are so important to catch people&#8217;s attention. How can you take a chance on such a slow build if everything a potential author hears is &#8220;It has to catch them quickly&#8221;?</p>
<p>Thanks!<br />
Jason</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Hopper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Hopper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janey: Nice of all you Californians to join us! ;) My publisher is in Reedley so I often feel terribly when I forget about the time difference and get the CEO on the phone at 4am! But she has an amazing (if not crazy!) work ethic and is often up doing email at the hour anyways. Great to be back in touch with your family, Janey!

Rebecca: I find it SO ironic that as I was just reading your comment I was contending with my three year old daughter to not talk back to her mother, and with my one year old son to &quot;release&quot; his sister&#039;s leg. If Walley&#039;s &quot;Intervention&quot; was a communal sanctification, it would HAVE to include the sinful natures of children or else I want a refund! :) lol  But in all seriousness, my experience is that MY OWN human heart is desperately wicked (&quot;who can know it?&quot;) and is in need of a Savior.

Michael: Thanks for the kind comment and for gracing my site with your presence! 

Blessings!

CH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janey: Nice of all you Californians to join us! <img src='http://www.christopherhopper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  My publisher is in Reedley so I often feel terribly when I forget about the time difference and get the CEO on the phone at 4am! But she has an amazing (if not crazy!) work ethic and is often up doing email at the hour anyways. Great to be back in touch with your family, Janey!</p>
<p>Rebecca: I find it SO ironic that as I was just reading your comment I was contending with my three year old daughter to not talk back to her mother, and with my one year old son to &#8220;release&#8221; his sister&#8217;s leg. If Walley&#8217;s &#8220;Intervention&#8221; was a communal sanctification, it would HAVE to include the sinful natures of children or else I want a refund! <img src='http://www.christopherhopper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  lol  But in all seriousness, my experience is that MY OWN human heart is desperately wicked (&#8220;who can know it?&#8221;) and is in need of a Savior.</p>
<p>Michael: Thanks for the kind comment and for gracing my site with your presence! </p>
<p>Blessings!</p>
<p>CH</p>
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		<title>By: Michael A. Heald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael A. Heald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello! Nice comments. I enjoyed the books, and there are two more to wrap up the series! Best regards.

Michael A. Heald</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello! Nice comments. I enjoyed the books, and there are two more to wrap up the series! Best regards.</p>
<p>Michael A. Heald</p>
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